Let the infallible Church of Rome tell you. According to Atty. Marwil Llasos, a Roman Catholic apologist specializing on Mariology:
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According to Fr. Abraham Arganiosa, another Roman Catholic apologist and comrade of Atty. Llasos:
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Well if your head is aching already, so is mine. Here is the real score on the Roman Catholic Church on the woman of Revelations 12: They didn't have any official and infallible interpretation of it during the first 300 years of Christianity. In fact, none of the church fathers during that time ever interpreted the woman as Mary. Some of the church fathers referred the woman as Israel, the people of God but never on Mary. Mary as woman clothed with the sun is not an apostolic teaching.
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Ano ba nmn yan..hndi ba mrunong mgbasa si gerry soliman na to???
ReplyDeleteanung conflict ng views duon???
hahay..trying hard na bible scholar...
I am accusing you mr. gerry soliman for intellectual dishonesty...
ReplyDeleteread carefully before you come up with this misleading info...
you know what i mean...THINK PLEASE!!
Would the both of you mind pointing to me specifically where I allegedly went wrong before you start giving conclusion?
ReplyDeleteThanks.
How dare you call yourself a Christian if you hate his mother? Aba, nalilimutan mo na ba na ibinigay ng Panginoong Hesus ang kanyang ina sa atin (John 19:26-27. E halatang halata na ubod ka ng sinunggaling na pinag kontra mo na sila Fr.Abe at Atty. Llasos. Naawa ako sa iyo, nadaya ka ng iyong pastor. Tandaan mo ang babala ng ating Panginoong Hesus na di lahat ng tumatawag sa kanyang pangalan ay kanyang kilalanin. Kung wala kang magandang sasabihin e MANAHIMIK ka na kesa mag sinunggaling ka pa. Talagang BUHAY KA PA E SINUSUNOG NA KALULUWA MO SA IMPYERNO
ReplyDeleteMr. Soliman,
ReplyDeleteIt is clear that Mama Mary is the ONE identified in Revelations 12.
Which of the thousand SECTS you belongs to, Mr. Soliman? Am just asking... Hope it's okay with you.
@ Anonymous:
ReplyDelete[How dare you call yourself a Christian if you hate his mother?]
I don't hate His mother, just your doctrines about her.
[Aba, nalilimutan mo na ba na ibinigay ng Panginoong Hesus ang kanyang ina sa atin (John 19:26-27.]
That verse quite far from proving your doctrine that she is the mother of the church.
[E halatang halata na ubod ka ng sinunggaling na pinag kontra mo na sila Fr.Abe at Atty. Llasos.]
Oh, you treat these people as infallible?
[Naawa ako sa iyo, nadaya ka ng iyong pastor. Tandaan mo ang babala ng ating Panginoong Hesus na di lahat ng tumatawag sa kanyang pangalan ay kanyang kilalanin. Kung wala kang magandang sasabihin e MANAHIMIK ka na kesa mag sinunggaling ka pa. Talagang BUHAY KA PA E SINUSUNOG NA KALULUWA MO SA IMPYERNO]
Well we're just telling our side here. It's the same thing when your critics say the same thing to you.
Thanks.
@Milesawayman,
ReplyDeleteThanks for writing.
[Mr. Soliman,
It is clear that Mama Mary is the ONE identified in Revelations 12.]
Perhaps in your tradition, she is. But are you saying you know better than the pre-Nicene church fathers who never interpreted the chapter as Mary?
[Which of the thousand SECTS you belongs to, Mr. Soliman? Am just asking... Hope it's okay with you.]
Reformed Theology.
There's no need to reform the theology...
ReplyDeleteyour making another religion ehhh??
adding to 40,000 sects...
Iglesia ni Gerry ehh??
Ang bagong daan ehh??
Gerry's witnesses ehh??
Have you heard of those apparitions of Mary??
Perhaps you will deny that and I cud foretell you will say "ohh..its just an invention of the Church there's no apparition of Mary and if its true, there was no message at all"
Mary is full of grace: what does it mean?? Is she someone to be neglected??
Does the bible recorded the death of Mary??san daw ang libingan niya?
Anu po ibig sbhin ng blessed are you among women??
Ikw po, are you blessed among men??
[your making another religion ehhh??]
ReplyDeleteYou obviously don't have a clue what Reformed Theology is.
[Have you heard of those apparitions of Mary??
Perhaps you will deny that and I cud foretell you will say "ohh..its just an invention of the Church there's no apparition of Mary and if its true, there was no message at all"]
If you want to base your faith on apparations than the Bible, then that's your problem.
[Mary is full of grace: what does it mean?? ]
Please read my article on Luke 1:28.
[Is she someone to be neglected??]
No, but she should not be exalted either.
[Does the bible recorded the death of Mary??san daw ang libingan niya?]
Are you basing your theology simply because you can't find her body? What about those other saints which you can't find their bodies?
[Anu po ibig sbhin ng blessed are you among women??]
She was carrying Christ in her womb.
[Ikw po, are you blessed among men?? ]
I'm not pregnant. :)
Apologetic? or Aggressor? I wonder what Church do you belong to? Thanks for any information Mr. Soliman.
ReplyDeleteYou can consider me a Baptist.
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